I recently got this software on advice from a friend and it rocks, however i have a big 1.2 GB mpeg file, and used TMPG to convert this mpeg to DVD format, i am now left with 2 files a .wav and .m2v, i went to use Nero to burn these as a DVD Video, however nero wouldnt allow these file formats, i wondered how do i burn these onto a dvd so that it plays in a dvd player.
I know its a n00b question and apologise, im new to this scene.
Additionally i am currently trying a standard burn as a data disc with both these files on a DVD-RW. I have a strong feeling this wont work, but could be wrong
anyone got any ideas?

apolgoies supposed to read m2v not 2mv
was a typoe

You can not Just Burn Mpeg files to DVD and Have them play like a DVD ,It just doesn"t work that way...You need a DVD authoring Program to author the Video and Audio file to DVD, You will Have to Set up Menu"s and add Chapters and add Buttons that will correspond to the Controlls on your Remote controll, and you will need to Link these Buttons to your Movie so you can navigate the DVD...If you Click on the Banner Below you Can download a 30 day Demo of Tmpgenc DVD author which is a Very simple DVD authoring Program which should be easy to learn....
Also when you encoded your File to DVD you should have chosen Mpeg1-Layer 2 as the audio format Because Wav audio takes Up a LOT of DVD Disk Space that would be better used for Increaseing the Video Bitrate which in Turn will increase the Video Quality..I actually encode the wav audio to AC3 which is the best format for DVD .....Cheers

What format is this MPEG file is it MPEG1 or MPEG2 and what is it's resolution?

I ask because it may not even be necessary to re-encode at all.
MPEG1 VCD is a compatible format for DVD as it is and doesn't need re-encoding which will not only preserve the original quality, but will allow more space on the DVD to be saved for more movies.

It isn't strictly required to create menus and chapters for DVD at all, you just have the movie play direct from the DVD.

Here is a very easy guide to show how it's done. This guide uses TMPG DVD author which is free to use for 30 days, but if you don't intend to include any menus then you can use IFOedit which is a very useful free program that has a DVD authoring option that will create the necessary files for you instead of using TMPG DVD author.
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/176385.php

Can TMPGEnc multiplex m2v+wav files to vob? If so, how?

Big thanks to anyone who can help with this one.

Actually, as an aside. Why is it I can't get TMPGEnc to multiplex a m2v and wav to an mpg? It complains that the wav is an invalid format, and yet it created the wav file itself. I specify the input files like:

mux://c:<path>file.m2v (video input)
mux://c:<path>file.wav (audio input)

Thanks again.

You can't mux a m2v and a wav. You are getting confused with DVD's which use LPCM (wav). If you want wav audio them you have to use a DVD authoring program. The authoring program will put the m2v and wav into a VOB wrapper.

If you don't want to make a DVD then convert the wav to mepeg audio (mpa) or AC3.

Video Guy

Hi Video_Guy,

You are right about one thing....I am bloody confused over it all. The .wav file is the one demultiplexed (using TMPGEnc) from the AVI file I used as the input file. This is a LPCM CBR file (I have tried the VBR and MPEG I Layer II as well). I have an authoring program I would have liked to use but it doesn't accept m2v, but it does accept .vob, hence I wanted to be able to produce one of those. As it happens I have decided to use DVD-Lab now instead which does accept .m2v files.

Anyhoo, I have a completely different problem now but I am raising this in a new thread.

Thanks for your response - it was much appreciated.

Regards,
Torrent

What do you mean you have an authoring program that doesn't accept m2v and only VOBs, which program?

If that's the case then it can't be an authoring program and sounds more like a burning program.

It would be pointless having a DVD authoring program that doesn't accept m2v and only VOBS, because that would be pointless.
It is the authoring program that creates the VOBS from the m2v!

You are absolutely correct in that it does appear to be a huge oversight. The program in question is Roxio's Easy CD and DVD Creator 6. Although it is mainly a CD/DVD burner package it does have authoring functions (produce menus, chapters, etc) in its DVD Builder application.

Frankly the whole thing is a bit of a mess. The only reason I am using TMPGEnc at all is because Pinnacle Liquid Edition's codecs are complete toss (I use LE for video editing). I get really poor compatibility with set-top DVD players if I author from within LE. Therefore I now "fuse" the sequence, which produces the AVI (and now the wav too) and use TMPGEnc to encode it. I will then import the resulting m2v and wav into DVD-Lab.

*phew* all this just to make a DVD-R that will run in most DVD players :)

Thanks

When I am creating an image file, about half way through it comes up with an error : Write error occuued at address 77fd3aed of mudule ntdll.dll. I have tried re-installing tmpenc and I have re-installed ntdll as well. Can anyone help?
thanks

What type of your source file?

I wonder if its possible to change a mpg (ntsc) 320x240 to 352x240 not re-encode only add black border up to 352 pixels.

Whats the best way to do it?

Regards crille

NO....You will have to Re-encode, there is No way arround it....

I am a newby using Video Studio 6 and DVD Movie Factory to capture movie from my Digi camcorder. So ofter I got lots of dropped frames and sometimes captured up to 7.15min it stopped (always 7.15min). Is there any wrong settings?
Is there any other software for capture movie and any for encoding and burning DVD with higher compression without losing quality. Tmpgenc is good but compression is not good enough.

Dropped Frames are usually due to haveing a Slow Hard drive or not captureing to a Seperate hard drive that your OS is Installed on..You should allways capture to a Dedicated drive to help avoid Frame Dropps, a Fast PC helps also...The Reason why your Captures are Stopping after 7 minutes is Probably because you are Captureing to a Fat 16 or Fat 32 Partition....A Fat 16 Partition Only supports File sizes of 2gb and a Fat 32 only supports 4gb File sizes...If you are Useing XP or WinNT or 2000 you should be able to Partition your Hard drive to NTFS which supports up to 137gb File sizes and with 48 Bit addressing the File sizes are Virtually Unlimited...As For Mpeg encodeing you aren"t going to Find any that will give much better Compression than Tmpgenc cuz it IS one of the Better encoders out there...I think if you are Captureing from a DV camera Through a Firewire Port you should really get your Self a DV Capture/Editing Program Like Premier or Vegas Video so you can edit together your 7 Minute files and will Probably drop less frames and haveing an extra Fast Hard drive Just for Video capture is also a Good idea, I just Picked up a Maxtor 160GB Drive New for $80 US....good Luck

Hello. I noticed a VCD template in TMPGEnc. I was wondering if it was good quality? I never use it because I set up my own custom template for high quality XVCDs and it works well. But I'm just wondering. How well does it work? Is it on par with officially released VCDs?

I also noticed for the audio that the DVD template uses 384 kbits/sec while VCD uses 224 kbits/sec. What does that mean? Why are they different? Does it convey the volume or what?

At first, you need to learn a little about what is information volume meaning, and there is VCD and DVD standard in the world.

The bitrate of the audio has nothing to do with the volume of the audio. The higher the bitrate, the higher the quality of the sound. The standard for VCD is 224. A good bitrate range for DVD is 256 - 384. The DVD bitrate is higher because a DVD has a much higher capacity then a CD and thus can have higher quality audio.

If you want to adjust the audio volume then use the Normalize feature in TMPGEnc.

For your first question, TMPGEnc is one of the best VCD encoders. The template follows the standard but if your player supports it you could increase the bit rate a bit to get better quality.

Video Guy

Regarding DVD bitrates.
I agree with Video Guy in that 256 - 384 is a good bitrate range for DVD, but it also depends on the format of the audio.

If it's AC3 5.1 then 384 would be best (some DVD's even use 448), but if it's only 2 channel AC3 or MPEG audio then 192 is usually plenty and the standard 224 for VCD is more than enough for MPEG audio.
Some people (novices usually) actually use wav(PCM) in their DVD for audio which is a complete waste of valuable space on the disk which could be used for the Video because the audio would be almost as good if it was compressed to 2 channel AC3 or MPEG audio.

Hi,
I'm having a problem with the merge and cut in TMPGenc. It completes Video Streaming fine, but when it finishes the audio stream the excalmation mark is still beside the "Performing Audio Stream" it just freezes there and never becomes a checkmark. I went to my task manager and it said it wasnt responding.. Someone Help Me Please?

aex

Have you tried waiting longer? Usually with large clips, it takes longer and it stops there for me too. But I just leave it alone and do something else. When I come back it's done!

I have Had this Problem Lots of Times...and there is No special Setting that will Fix it..You just have to find something else to do it....

TMPGEnc sometimes chokes on MPEG files created by other programs. It works best on files that it created.

Perhaps your audio is AC3. The merge and cut feature seems only to work with mpa files. I could never merge and cut with AC3 audio.

TMPG won't merge or split any MPEGs with Ac3 audio, it will just remove the stream completely form the output, so that's unlikely the problem.

I agree with Sakuya, with problems like these all that is usually required is a litle patience. Sometimes TMPG seems like it is hanging whereas in fact it is still performing the operation even if if it says in task manager it says the program is not responding (Task manager actually says this about most programs during a task which use a lot of CPU time which are in fact working OK)

Just go and have a coffee and let it do it's thing then check it. Remeber a watched pot never boils.

I would like to produce small mpeg-1 clips for dial up users. 3 min in 180x120 or 120x90 image size. Is this possible using commercial version of tmpgenc. it does not appear possible in free version.

Yes it is Possible in ALL Tmpgenc Versions...You just set the Resolution to 180+120 ,simple?? If the Resolution is Greyed out you have to then Load the "Unlock.mfc" Template from the "Extra Folder then all of the Settings will Be unlocked...And remember to set the "System" setting to "Mpeg-1" And NOT "Mpeg-1 Video-CD" cuz if you don"t do that all of your Files will be Huge...Cheers

I've just downloaded and installed TMPGEnc and tried converting an .avi file to mpeg. One worked fine, however one gave a greatly increased running time when I went through the wizard. After converting there was only 25 minutes of video and the rest was black screen.

If anyone could help that would be great.

Paul

Usually if you go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Direct Show" to "2" this will solve this Problem...But it isn"t really that big of a Deal because you can allways Cut the Extra Black Video off the end of the Mpeg file useing the "Merge & Cut".....Cheers

This is driving me nuts. I've got some files at 480x360 that I'm trying to encode to go to DVD. Using the wizard, NTSC and everything and it doesn't matter what the hell I use for my video arrange method, the files that are being ouput are 720x540 and obviously aren't DVD compliant. What the hell do I do to get a 720x480 with this source footage???

Setting -> Video -> Size -> 720x480
Setting -> Advanced -> Video Arrange Methode -> Center (Custom Size) -> 704x480
Setting -> Advanced -> source aspect ratio -> 1:1 (VGA)

But i suggest you to use AVISynth with the following Script and in TMPGEnc with the Arrange Methode Center.

AviSource("D:video.avi")
BicubicResize(704,480,0,0.6,0,0,480,360)
AddBorders(8,0,8,0)
ConvertToRGB24()

If you have Files that are 480+360 and want to make a DVD out of them I wouldn"t encode them to 720+480 because the Resize from 480+360 to 720+480 will totally Destroy any Definition and Clarity in the Image and you will end up with a File that looks Much worse as a DVD than it did as a 480+360 file..Up-sizeing destroys Image Quality especially when you are resizeing about 100%...What I would do is use the "Half D1" DVD standard which is a Mpeg2 file at 352+480 authored to DVD..So that the File stays in it"s original Aspect ratio set the Resolution to 352+480 but in the "Video Arrange method" set it to "Center(Custom Size)" and set the Size to 352+264, But if you don"t like how that looks because of the Black Boarders then choose "Fullscreen Keep aspect ratio" ....This will Give you a Much clearer and sharper Picture and you will only need to use Half the Bitrate and you can get twice as Much Video on the DVD......Good Luck

Actually I'm gonna have to disagree with both of you.
@B_Racer
>Setting -> Advanced -> Video Arrange Method -> Center (Custom Size) -> 704x480

Why 704x480 and custom size when using 'Full screen keep aspect ratio' will maintain the exact ratio of the original whereas using custom and 704x480 will distort it slightly?
I hope it's not gonna be something to do with the overscan issue on this one either.

@minion
>Up-sizeing destroys Image Quality especially when you are resizeing about 100%...What I would do is use the "Half D1" DVD standard which is a Mpeg2 file at 352+480 authored to DVD..So that the File stays in it"s original Aspect ratio set the Resolution to 352+480

In my opinion it WOULD be better upsizing to 720x480. Using 352x480 is still upsizing the vertical resolution from 360 to 480, but then you would also be downsizing the horizontal from 480 to 352 which will only result in quality loss.
It would be better to just simply upsize it to DVD resolution and use the keep aspect ratio method.

I will agree though with B_Racer that it is better to use AVIsynth to resize than TMPG as this will maintain a better quality in the resized image.

> Why 704x480 and custom size when using 'Full screen keep aspect ratio' will maintain the exact ratio of the original whereas using custom and 704x480 will distort it slightly?


Well, that's because 'Full screen keep aspect ratio' will distort the Video, custom size to 704x480 will not!

Remember, the Video is 4:3. 704x480 is also exactly 4:3. If he does a direct resizing to 720x480, the AR is no longer 4:3. (720x480 is equal to 704x480 plus 16 Pixels Overscan).

Jeez, i have to tell shh to correct Fit2Disc a little. ;)

I just Know from Personal experience when I first started to try to back up my SVCD Collection to DVD and resizeing to 720+480 allways looked awefull, I actually got better Quality resizeing down to 352+240 than I did Up-sizeing to 720+480...I ended up Just Authoring the SVCD"s to DVD the way they were which was the best option....I also Found that Up-Sizeing Interlaced material was especially bad , But with Progressive Footage it was OK, I guess it depends on the Source file...Cheers

@B_Racer
>Well, that's because 'Full screen keep aspect ratio' will distort the Video, custom size to 704x480 will not!

Sorry to disagree, but I don't think so!
Actually I don't disagree with you that 704x480 will produce the correct ratio. What I'm trying to convey is that using 'Full screen keep aspect ratio' will produce exactly the same results.

TMPG will automatically place the resized image with the exact same aspect ratio as the original within the 720x480 frame and create the 8 pixel border. If you test it you will see.

This is what the 'maintain aspect ratio' setting is for. TMPG will resize the image to exactly the same ratio as the original input ratio setting no matter what the output resolution is, so if it's 4:3 then TMPG will maintain this ratio and resize the image accordingly (namely 480x360 to 704x480) to fit inside the 720x480 frame.

@Minion

Minion I think your quality degradation when upsizing is due to using TMPG to do the upsizing.
If you use AVIsynth to do the upsizing you should see much better results.
Upsizing is best using a Bicubic method. I don't know what method TMPG uses, but I don't think it's Bicubic which is why the quality is always degraded.
I guess it may be Bilinear, or worse some other quick resizing method such as nearest neighbour (Ughh), which is just no good for upsizing and nearest neighbour is just no good for anything (in my opinion).

@minion.
By the way minion it probably wasn't necessary for you to re-encode or resize your SVCD's at all.

You can use DVDpatcher to patch the resolution which will make any DVD authoring program accept it so you can author it to DVD.

Actually I do use AVISynth to Resize and when Resizeing that Much (Allmost 100%) and still Had really bad results, absolutly no definition or Sharpness and a Lot Of Blockyness in Dark areas even when useing 5000kbs-8000kbs with CCE 2-Pass and that is why I Just end up authoring the SVCD"s to DVD but didn"t use the Patching the Headers Method Because My DVD Player had Problems with those DVD"s, What I did was Used DVD-Lab which is Great for Authoring SVCD"s to DVD..I actually got Much better Quality resizeing Down to 352+240 from 480+480 than I did Upsizeing to 720+480 ,But I guess everyone has a Method that works for them...Cheers

@Minion

On Videos with a Resolution like this one here in the Thread, i prefer to resize to 352x480, unsing Bicubic with a Factor of 0.5 - 0.6.
"Upsizing interlaced"? Huh? What's that? Interlaced Video HAS to have the vertikal Resolution of 480 or 576, all other Stuff isn't interlaced, it is distorted. So there's absolutly no need to do any Resizing-Job on interlaced Video except for coversions NTSC-PAL, PAL-NTSC.
If i convert NTSC interlaced Video to PAL, i do a interlaced Resizing using AVISynth (after SeparateFields), it works perfect.


@Ashy

I did'nt say, your Methode is wrong, but for Newbies, it might be a little Dangerous. If he don't know the exact Source-AR of the AVI and do use the wrong setting, Keep aspect ratio will not do a propper Job.
But like you said (and me too): it's better to use an other Tool to do the Resizing because TMPGEncs Resizer is a simple Bilinear working thing (i guees so, the Results do look like simple bilinear resized).
If you use AVISynth or VirtualDub to do the Resize-Job, it's a good Idea to use Center in TMPGEnc. That's the fastest and imho save Way.

I am trying to burn an mpeg movie onto a CD-R....have encoded the movie to mpeg, from AVI with TMPGEnc. Do I just burn it onto a disk, or do I need another program to do this?

No, you need an authoring program.
Assuming you've created a VCD or an SVCD, you can use NERO or VCDEasy, the second is a better choice to my opinion

Sorry to barge in, but why is VCDEasy better than Nero? Is VCDEasy free? I use Nero 5 and it adds more minutes to my VCD, plus, the video in the VCD stops a few seconds shorter than it was intended to. But then again, it might be my DVD player's problem.

I find VCDEasy a Better authoring Program because it supports Chapters and has better menu options but it"s Burning engine isn"t very reliable ,So I used to use VCDEasy to add chapters amd menu"s then make a Bin/Cue file that I burn with nero....

I'd appreciate if someone "WHO KNOWS" will explain the setting of the aspect ratio parameters.

When I start the TMPGEnc with the Wizard and pick the AVI file (Captured by Scenalizer from Sony TRV900) the Aspect Ratio in Expert Settings for Source portion of the screen shows 4:3 525 Line (NTSC, 704x480) - Is it correct or should I change it to 4:3 525 line (NTSC) or even 4:3 Display

Next when I go to Other Settings, Video Tab the spect ratio there is set to 4:3 Display
And finally I go to Advance tab and look at Vidoe Source Settings - It looks like this Aource aspect ration corresponds to whatever I selected at the very beginning at the Expert Settings for Source part of the Wizard. And again; What should it be?

Another confusing part on this tab is the Video Arrange Method. Does it matter how it is set if I'm producing the DVD for the NTSC TV Output and I'd like to keep original size and aspect ratio?

I come accross the following explanation for Source aspect ratio and Video arrange method. Are they correct?

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***Source aspect ratio
If source footage dimensions are the same as the output dimensions, then selecting 4:3 Display or 16:9 Display (depending on the format) for both the source and output aspect ratios will ensure that no resizing is done (which makes the encoding faster and preserves the source quality). Alternatively, you can select the n-Line mode that corresponds to the source file's format (ex., for a 4:3 PAL file captured at 720x576, select 4:3 625 line (PAL), and for a 16:9 NTSC file captured at 704x480, select 16:9 525 line (NTSC, 704x480), etc.). In older versions of TMPGEnc, the n-line modes compressed the image horizontally by a few pixels in PAL, but this problem appears to have been fixed in newer versions. Note that the 1:1 (VGA) option doesn't refer to square images, but to square pixels (the format used by most computer-generated images).

***Video arrange method
If your source footage has the correct size (i.e., the same as the output size, selected in the Video tab), any method you pick will produce the same result. If the source footage has a different size, then it will be resized using the rule you define here. If you do not want the video to be resized at all, select Center. If you want the video to be stretched to occupy the entire screen, select Full screen. If you want the video to be resized in such a way that it keeps its original aspect ratio even when that's different from the output aspect ratio, select the modes marked (keep aspect ratio). If you want to convert a video clip to fullscreen without letterboxing it (by clipping the edges instead), select No margin. If you want to adjust its size manually, select Center (custom size).

Generally, if your source footage does not match the DVD resolution, it's best to resize it using an interactive program (that will show you the result immediately), and then feed the resized footage into TMPGEnc. If you resize directly in TMPGEnc you will only see the result after the compression is finished, so if you select the wrong mode you will have wasted a lot of time.
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Thanks for any clarification, Tomas

You are mostly right, but:

> If you resize directly in TMPGEnc you will only see the result after the compression is finished

You can use the Prview Mode to see if it is correct.

About the Keep Aspect Ratio settings: They are dangerous. Without any Resizing, there are only two Modes which will work correct all the Way: Center and Full Screen.
Because many Source-Vids didn't have a correct DAR and/or PAR, with Keep Aspect Ratio you will get a distortet Result